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    So cool drives the avant-garde Citroën DS & Lancia Flaminia For the modern family Who looked for a large sedan with the latest technology in the 60s, which was found at Citroën and Lancia. Two completely different design ideas were available. Words by Franz-Peter Hudek. Photos Ingolf Pompe Good to know. / #Lancia-Flaminia-Berlina / #Lancia-Flaminia / #Lancia

    Key data: #V6 engine, OHV, 2458cc, 102bhp, 1430kg, 160kph, 1957 to 1970 Price: 34,000 euros (good condition) Character: Representative sedan with complex transaxle drive. Very solid, very comfortable, liked to ride in the Vatican
    Citroën DS 21 Pallas

    Tech data: four-cylinder engine, OHV, 2175cc, 100bhp, 1280kg, 175kph, 1956-1975 Price: 31,000 euros (good condition) Character: The most famous classic from France: unique, detail obsessed, futuristic, comfortable and capricious / #Citroen-DS21-Pallas / #Citroen-DS21 / #Citroen-DS-Pallas / #Citroen-DS / #Citroen

    Is that even a car? Or maybe a spaceship from the Perry Rhodan novels? Who is sitting behind the wheel for the first time in a Citroën DS, that raises this question. Almost nothing is reminiscent of a 1966 automobile, not even the steering wheel, whose only spoke, like the tongue of a reptile, sticks out of an oval mouth. Only a spoke! How should that be?

    And it's extremely light in here. The reason: The high, almost circularly curved windscreen seems to seamlessly pass into the side windows, as if there were no roof posts. This creates a perfect all-round view. That one does not see the front end of the big Citroën is not a handicap. We do not have to follow any bumpy asphalt bands, but float on our comfortable salon chairs simply through the universe. Even the bright, dynamically designed dashboard with a band tachometer embedded in fine corrugated iron and various chrome-plated dials signals the DS novice: This is not a normal car!

    Cool restraint in the Lancia Quite different is the Lancia Flaminia Berlina, whose interior is based on the traditional sporty car towards the end of the 50s: classic two-spoke steering wheel with semicircular Hupring, steering wheel circuit and two large round instruments for speed and engine speed.

    No experiments, just a few little peculiarities such as the indications of oil pressure and oil temperature, tank contents and cooling water temperature, which inform the driver within the round, up to 180kmh speedometer scale. Or a massive handbrake lever installed across the instrument panel, which acts like a handy baton.

    The seating position is similar to the Citroën. However, the Lancia driver overlooks almost a third of his own magnificent automobile: the two fenders pulled far forward and the dominant, only slightly sloping bonnet with the wide air scoop. In general, the aristocratic Italian makes no attempt to hide his impressive 4.85 meters in length. Both the huge forward-curved radiator opening and the tail fins protruding far beyond the trunk lid make the majestic Lancia look even bigger. The Flaminia is undoubtedly a prestigious automobile.

    The goddess from outer space

    The DS, on the other hand, whose name is pronounced in French as "déesse" - "goddess" - also reminds on the outside of a spaceship, which has extended the wheels to land. Its long wheelbase of well over three meters and the compact basic shape with tapered, almost cooler bonnet and sloping mini tail make the large front-wheel drive sedan compact. At 4.84 meters in length, the Citroën is only an inch shorter than the mighty Lancia with its decorative fin jewelry.

    If you were looking for an alternative to a Mercedes-Benz 220S for your family or other prestigious passenger transport in the early sixties, you could choose between these two extreme models. However, the car enthusiastic family man should pursue a lucrative profession, because the two import sedans were not cheap. The 220S with 110bhp gave it for 13,200 Mark, while Citroën for the shown here DS21 Pallas 14,300 and Lancia for the Flaminia Berlina even briskly called 22,500 Mark.

    For this you also got the most modern technology and an exquisite equipment. When introduced in 1957 Lancia a V6 engine made of light metal with initially 2.5-liters displacement and 102bhp, from the end of 1962 with 2.8 liters of displacement and 129bhp. The transmission and differential form a unit with the DeDion rear axle and internal brakes. At the beginning, the luxury equipment also includes rear window wipers and the small side windows which can be opened by the driver using compressed air. The workmanship of the bodywork is impeccable and is at Rolls-Royce level.

    The Citroën DS, which was introduced in 1955, offers even more modern technology: The hydropneumatic system, a complicated high-pressure suspension system, replaces the steel suspension and ensures a constant ground clearance that can be adjusted in three stages. In addition, it levels the rolling and pitching movements in curves and braking.

    The braking system and the optionally available semi-automatic systems also work with a high-pressure system developed for the DS series. Therefore, there is no brake pedal, but only a rubber button, on which one should enter with feeling, in order to avoid full braking.

    Our DS21 Pallas photo model reinforces the spaceship character of the interior with its red fabric upholstery and door panels. Its top features include larger seats inside, rear pocket cups and chrome door handles, exterior auxiliary lights, rubber bumpers, decorative trim, metallic paint and more. The unrestored topex copy with freshly reconditioned technology and new wearing parts was provided to us by the Citroën specialist Dirk Sassen in Düsseldorf. The DS 21 Pallas in Gris Palladium from 1966 is there for sale, contact in the purchase advice.
    DS with removable fenders One of the many peculiarities of the DS is the single-screw rear fenders, which you have to remove to change a wheel. And a four-speed semi-automatic without clutch pedal, the selector lever is mounted above the steering wheel.

    To start the 100bhp four-cylinder we press the selector lever in its neutral position upwards. The first gear engages with a slight body shake, and with little gas we go - no: we take off! In fact, the DS seems to hover almost contactless over the asphalt and can be controlled by the traffic with its fragile-looking steering wheel effortlessly and with little effort. The Lancia, on the other hand, calls for the old-school motorist: the massive, precisely crafted door and the crazy steering wheel gearbox, whose linkage extends to the gearbox on the rear axle, need a little bit of pressure in their handling.

    When driving, however, the heavy car proves to be surprisingly handy. Even without power steering, the Lancia pulls thanks to optimal weight distribution quickly and almost without resistance by fast driven curves. The powerful, quiet and low-vibration VR6 engine also contributes to a superior driving pleasure. Which one should you take? Strict Classicism or courageous avant-garde? Hard to believe: At that time, nearly 1.5 million buyers (all Citroën D models) opted for the avant-garde and only 3943 for the expensive classicism.
    Conclusion

    Does the Flaminia sedan also look familiar? It's clear. Their trapezoidal style shaped the cars of the 60s. The big sedans of Austin, Fiat, Peugeot and others took over this epochal Pininfarina look. By contrast, there are no design items from the DS. There are still many roadworthy classics that amaze us again and again. Franz-Peter Hudek

    Citroen DS
    BODY-CHECK
    ■ Between the tank and the trunk, the box-shaped seats of the rear swingarm bearings sit on the floor of the car. If the Citroën DS rusted through here, then usually the whole car is destroyed. The frameless side windows often get water in the car and ruin seats and panels. If it penetrates the roof, it attacks the C-pillar next to the floor of the car. Because the rear fenders are fixed with only one screw, it is worthwhile to remove them and to check the condition of the C-pillar. Also check: outer box sections of the frame, door bottoms, fenders, trunk floor and the sheet metal under the chrome trim of the Pallas models.
    TECHNOLOGY-CHECK
    ■ With the change to the green LHM hydraulic fluid from 1966, the reliability of the hydropneumatics improved considerably. With well-maintained models it is usually sufficient to change the spring balls about every 100,000 kilometers. Less well maintained DS also leaks in the 34 meter hydraulic system due to corrosion or leaking connections. Steadfast are all engines - even the early Langhuber with only three crankshaft bearings. The DS 23 (especially IE) can get storage problems at almost 200,000 kilometers. The semi-automatic should be adjusted by the specialist.

    PRICES
    At introduction 1965 (Citroën DS 21) ....................................... 13 200 Mark
    Classic Analytics Award 2019 (condition 2/4) .................... 31 000/8500 Euro
    Insurance (Liability / Fully Comprehensive) * ........................... 61.64 / 187.43 Euro
    SPARE PARTS
    ■ Not only because of the more reliable technology, we recommend a late DS, ID or D version. As of 1967, almost every spare part is found - and this is easier than for early versions. These are also characterized by many variants that complicate authentic type-appropriate restorations or repairs.
    CLUBS AND SPECIALISTS
    DS-Club Germany e. V., Wermertshäuser Strasse 9, 35085 Ebsdorfergrund, Tel. 064 07/902 30, info@dsclub.de, www.ds-club.de DS Sassen GmbH & Co. KG (Import, Parts, Repairs), Benrodestraße 61, 40597 Dusseldorf, Tel. 02 11/711 87 02, www.ds-sassen.de Autohaus Schneider, Rosenfelder Strasse 5, 72351 Geislingen, Tel. 074 33/85 08, www.fahrzeuge-schneider.de
    WEAK POINTS

    1 pictures of swingarm bearings
    2 rear crossbeam
    3 leaking roof and windows
    4 A and C columns
    5 door bottoms and sills
    6 frame boom
    7 spent feather balls
    8 leaking hydraulic lines
    9 bearing damage motor (DS 23)
    10 BorgWarner fully automatic

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    Lancia Flaminia Berlina

    Under the representative body is modern drive technology, which requires a specialist. Good copies are therefore rare.

    BODY-CHECK
    ■ Anti-rust was a stranger to both Italy and France at that time - often with devastating consequences for the large Lancia Flaminia sedan. Responsible for this are numerous box profiles whose closed cavities are difficult to examine and contain no preservatives. The bare sheet received only a layer of underbody protection from below. Often also dampened insulation material in the rear area developed into annoying rust nests. Other problem areas of the Lancia Flaminia are: lamp pots, fenders in the area of the A-pillar, sills, side panels and the entire rear area with luggage compartment floor and end tips.

    TECHNOLOGY-CHECK
    ■ Properly maintained, the V6 engine hardly causes any problems. However, there are a few peculiarities. So a defective Novotex wheel of the tachometer drive can block the camshaft. Corrosion residues from the silumin (aluminum-silicon die-cast alloy) engine case may clog the water channels, resulting in blown cylinder head gaskets. The transaxle transmission unit with DeDion rear axle requires a lot of service due to the internal brakes and drive shafts. The manual transmission has its own oil pump, whose failure causes damage.

    PRICES
    At introduction 1957 (Lancia Flaminia Berlina) ...................... 22 500 Mark
    Classic Analytics Award 2019 (condition 2/4) .................. 34 000/10 000 Euro
    Insurance (Liability / Fully Comprehensive) * ........................... 51,64 / 192,33 Euro

    SPARE PARTS
    ■ Due to the relatively large number of Flaminia coupes from Pininfarina, Touring (including convertibles) and Zagato - a total of 8700 units - technical and wearing parts are available. It is more difficult in body and especially interior components of the rare Berlina, which often served as a partial donor for the sports models.

    CLUBS AND SPECIALISTS
    Lancia Club Germany e. V., Secretariat: Sanddornweg 5, 53757 Sankt Augustin, www.lanciaclubdeutschland.de Lancia Club Vincenzo, Im Nußbaumboden 7, 79379 Müllheim, Tel. 076 31/79 98 21, www.lancia-club-vincenzo.com B & F Touring Garage, Hauptstraße 183, 53842 Troisdorf-Spich, Tel. 022 41/84 49 10

    WEAK POINTS

    1 mudguard with lamp housing
    2 A-pillar
    3 sills
    4 longitudinal beams underbody
    5 side parts
    6 trunk floor, end tips
    7 head gaskets
    8 drive shafts
    9 Rear brake assembly
    10 gears (bearings, leaking)
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    Car #1983-Citroen-CX-IE-Familiale / #1983 / #Citroen-CX-IE-Familiale / #Citroen-CX / #Citroen

    Year of manufacture 1983
    Recorded mileage 43,861
    Asking price £6950
    Vendor Pioneer Automobiles, near Newbury, Berkshire; 07711 509600; www.pioneer-automobiles.co.uk

    WHEN IT WAS NEW
    Price £10,171
    Max power 128bhp
    Max torque 148lb ft
    0-60mph 11.3 secs
    Top speed 115mph
    Mpg 25

    This rare S1 survivor came from the James Hull collection via Jaguar Land Rover Classic, its Familiale name meaning three rows of seats. It presents well, though bodily it’s not perfect, with some bubbling at the door bottoms, tops and wheelarch lips, plus various other paint blemishes, but it has good sills and is very solid underneath. It has an amazingly well-preserved interior, which is the hardest thing to put right on these. It has a very good history file, too, including eight service stamps to 43,730 miles in April 2012, plus certificates for Dinitrol protection from new, redone in 1984.

    The stainless-steel bumpers are okay, and the tailgate at least has been repainted, its window still bearing the supplying dealer sticker from Ing’s of Maidenhead. The tyres are a mix including one old Michelin MX, with an original and unused XAS on the spare, and the scuffed wheels are lightly corroded. There is very little dampness underneath, so the hydraulics haven’t sprung a leak. Inside, it’s almost unworn. There’s one small hole in the left rear seat, another in the driver’s seat, one mark on the left front carpet and the driver’s door stay doesn’t work. That’s about it: the dash plastics are perfect, and the soft, rubberised parts such as door pulls haven’t started crumbling.

    Under the bonnet it’s ‘used’ rather than concours, but the coolant is pink, the oil cleanish, the LHM fluid level okay. The injected 2347cc ‘four’ starts easily with a bit of belt squeal and idles quietly, with no exhaust blows. From the kneeling position (we had to drop it because it was sitting level) the suspension lifts within 10 secs. It drives very well: the auto ’box suits the imperious ‘magic carpet’ bearing of the big estate, plus it changes smoothly and kicks down readily – and the gear indicator telltales all work, as do the revolving-drum instruments… but not the oil-level gauge. The temperature needle sits centrally, and the cooling fan cuts in normally when you stop after a run. The electric windows work but the air-con doesn’t at the moment. The CX will be sold with its original handbook, guarantee card, key numbers card and a new MoT.

    SUMMARY

    EXTERIOR Unusual colour; some paint bubbles
    INTERIOR Extremely well preserved
    MECHANICALS Lowish mileage; drives well
    VALUE ★★★★★★★✩✩✩

    For + Rarity, originality and unusually good interior
    Against - Paint shows some blemishes; air-con doesn’t blow cold

    SHOULD I BUY IT?
    If your antiques business requires the retro-chic finishing touch, this Citroën is simply huge inside. And good luck finding another!
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    Jack Grover

    Buying Guide Citroen's Traction Avant

    Posted in Cars on Wednesday, 07 August 2019

    Buying Guide Citroen's Traction Avant, the pre-war classic that is surprisingly up to date. The Traction Avant is a pre-war car that drives like one from many decades later and has a unique and unmistakable style all of its own. It is a tempting package that is different from the norm, but what pitfalls are there? Words: Jack Grover. Pictures: John Colley.

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    Jack Grover
    Jack Grover created a new group Citroen Traction Avant
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    TEAM ADVENTURE
    Ten amazing clubs, nominated by you, one big judging trip. This is how we chose Britain’s Best Classic Car Club

    WORDS THE DRIVE-MY TEAM. PHOTOS MATT HOWELL.

    It has taken the best part of a year but, after you told us which of Britain’s local clubs we should visit, we set off to find the answer to the question: which is best? We’re now ready to reveal the winner.

    But before we do, join us on the giant classic car run around Britain that meant we could make an informed decision. Along the way, we discovered some incredible cars and great stories. We also realised that the classic car hobby is evolving. The thriving clubs, the ones which are growing, are the ones that make fewest demands. They are informal, fun and give those who turn up the freedom to do their own thing. They are welcoming, multi-marque, don’t discriminate on age or condition and they are all typified by a distinct lack of snobbery. We would have happily joined any of them. They are, quite simply, all winners.

    The journey itself was a proper blast. We met friends old and new, overcame obstacles, were introduced to some fantastic driving roads and, of course, were wowed by the cars. We also had a yearning to head further north and west in particular. If this had been at trip to visit the top 15 clubs voted for by you we would have been heading deep into Scotland and Northern Ireland. So we start with A picture of us looking west from West Wales… we Promise to cross the Irish Sea soon.

    / #1988-Citroen-CX22-TRS / #Citroen-CX22-TRS / #1988 / #Citroen-CX / #Citroen / #Citroen-CX22

    I bought this CX in 2012 after a long search to find one of the 12models of this type left. With that, and the fact it is designed to eat high mileages, he was bound to bring it. Given its regular long-distance use, he had little to fear from unexpected happenings.

    / #1980-Triumph-TR7 / #Triumph-TR7 / #Triumph

    Danny Hopkins
    It had lived under the flatbed of an old lorry for ten years, so was unprepared for such a huge journey, but with days to spare Danny managed to service it, repair the bonnet and electrics, and a fit new battery and tyres. So, it would be able to make it to the start.

    / #1972-MGB-GT / #MGB-GT / #MGB
    Matt Tomkins’

    With rebuilt engine fitted and oil pressure achieved a week before the off ,Matt pressed the ’B into use and managed to cover 400miles in just four days. At this point he declared it ‘run-in’, changed the oil then pointed the nose towards Pembroke with hope in his heart and an AA card in his wallet.
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    James Walshe
    James Walshe posted a new blog post, Citroen CX-pansion

    Citroen CX-pansion

    Posted in Cars on Saturday, 15 June 2019

    James buys another example of the car that started it all

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    Davy Lewis

    1986 Citroen BX4TC Group B

    Posted in Cars on Wednesday, 01 May 2019

    ‘Born Under a Bad Sign’ The ill-fated story of Citroen’s assault on Group B. Words Davy. Photos Etienne Crebessegues.

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