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If you're buying a used 911 as an investment, send me your address so that I can a...rrange a visit from the boys. Investors who never drive their 911s bring a word to mind. That word is 'pimp'. As 911 diehards, the boys don't like pimps, so when they arrive, make sure your engine is still warm, the exhaust system is making that tinkling noise and there is evidence in your tyres of some recently accomplished brisk cornering.
All 911s, from 1963 to this afternoon, share a characteristic 911 'feel', but that varies greatly in degree. Bog-standard used Coupes from the late 1970s or 1980s once delivered the goods for sensible money but they might demand some restoration work now.
Choosing a 911 is such a very personal matter. Just go for what you really want, get the best straight car you can find and look after it. Reliability is legendary but repairs can be costly.
My choice is currently the 993 Carrera 2 Coupe of 1993-98. Its predecessor, the 964, was respectable but dull. The 993's different, agile feel makes it terrific to drive and good ones go for less than £30,000 - this week, anyway.
It's the last air-cooled 911 model but so what? Later models lost nothing by being water-cooled. No, pick a 993 for its exhilarating agility, and its price.
A friend of mine paid £26,000 for a superb 1994 993 Carrera 2 in late 2013. He loves it, whether he's tootling about the shops or on a 300-mile blast through the remote Highlands of Scotland, where it truly excels. And that's no more than it deserves.
Porsche 911 Carrera RS
1973 // £500,000
The eternally great, ultimate development of the original 911 concept, it combines high performance and low weight with inch-perfect precision handling. Superb but the price of this model now, sir, is officially‘through the roof'. If you buy one, promise us you will use it.
On an autumn day in 1972 the salesman from Porsche GB came to visit our house. 'We're making a special car,' he told my father. 'Only 200 will be built, and we're offering them to our best clients first as demand is sure to be strong.' They built more than 1500 in the end, and demand was so great that, instead of management having to use them as company cars to use up unsold stock as expected, Porsche sold out the first batch of 500 immediately and had to build two more series.
Why the fuss? Because the RS is so much more than the sum of its parts. It was derived from the relatively humble 2.4S, but with flared rear arches and wider wheels (a 911 first), bored-out engine (at 2.7 litres Porsche's biggest road car motor to date), a rear spoiler (another first, and not just for Porsche, so initially illegal in some markets) and, last but not least, weight-loss that took the RS under the magic 1000kg in 'lightweight' trim.
The result: 150mph, 0-60mph in 5.0sec, handling to die for (and you would if you lifted off mid-comer) and a string of victories on every continent including rallies, Le Mans and the Targa Florio. Oh, and you can drive it to the shops.
Mine's been in the family for 42 years and has never once 'failed to proceed'. Beat that, Enzo...
Porsche 911 GT3 (997-series, generation II)
2009-12 // £80,000-120,000
The 997-series Generation II cars were terrific in their time and the naturally aspirated 997 GT3 was a hugely powerful, seriously fabulous machine, subtly better in fast corners than previous GT3 models.
A classic in waiting - bound to be a sound long-term investment.
Any brand new 911
2015 // From around £75,000
Admit it, they are absolutely brilliant. If you don’t want one, you should. Buy it, keep it, service it properly. One day, it will be a classic but, meanwhile, enjoy a few happy decades driving it. The best of all worlds.
- Porsche 911 992-Series
- Porsche 912 Club first gen pre-impact bumpers
In the early 1960s, Porsche was planning to discontinue the Type 356, which would leave them with the newly-introduced Type 911 as their only product. Concerned that the considerable price increase of a 911 with flat opposed six-cylinder powerplant over the... 356 would cost the company sales and narrow brand appeal, in 1963 Porsche executives decided to introduce a new four-cylinder entry-level model. Like the 911 (original internal factory designation "901"), the four-cylinder 912 was originally known at Zuffenhausen by a number with a zero in the middle, but the "902" designation was never used publicly. ("912" as project number was used after 1968 to indicate the 12 cylinder flat opposed engine developed for Porsche 917 racing car)
In 1963, Porsche assigned Dan Schwartz, later Chief Departmental Manager for Development, Mechanics, a project to oversee design and construction of a new horizontally-opposed four-cylinder engine for the 902, utilizing components from the new 901 six-cylinder engine, that would produce higher performance than their 356SC engine, and be less costly and complex than their Carrera 2 engine. Another option explored by Claus von Rücker was to increase displacement of the 356 Type 616 engine to 1.8 liters, add Kugelfischer fuel injection, and modify both valve and cooling systems. Considering performance, cost, and scheduling, Porsche discontinued both of these design projects, and instead developed a third option, to tailor the 1.6 liter Type 616 engine to the 902.
Before 911 production commenced in 1964, the Porsche Vehicle Research Department had set aside chassis numbers 13328, 13329, 13330, 13352, and 13386 through 13397 for research testing of the 902; research vehicle Serial Number 13394 is the oldest 902 known to exist today. In production form, the Type 912 combined a 911 chassis / bodyshell with the 1.6L, four-cylinder, push-rod Type 616/36 engine, based upon the Type 616/16 engine used in the Type 356SC of 1964-1965. With a lower compression ratio and new Solex carburetors, the Type 616/36 engine produced five less horsepower than the 616/16, but delivered about the same maximum torque at 3,500 rpm versus 4200rpm for the 616/16.
Compared to the 911, the resulting production Type 912 vehicle demonstrated superior weight distribution, handling, and range. To bring 912 pricing close to the 356, Porsche also deleted some features standard on the 911. As production of the 356 concluded in 1965, on April 5, 1965 Porsche officially began production of the 912 coupé.
Styling, performance, quality construction, reliability, and price made the 912 a very attractive buy to both new and old customers, and it substantially outsold the 911 during the first few years of production. Porsche produced nearly 30,000 912 coupé units and about 2500 912 Targa body style units (Porsche's patented variation of a cabriolet) during a five-year manufacturing run.
Porsche 912 Targa
Production of the Targa, complete with removable roof and heavy transparent plastic rear windows openable with a zipper (later called 'Version I' by Porsche and the 'soft-window Targa' by enthusiasts), commenced in December 1966 as a 1967 model. In January 1968, Porsche also made available a Targa 'Version II' option ('hard window Targa') with fixed glass rear window, transforming the Targa into a coupé with removable roof.
The 912 was also made in a special version for the German autobahn police (polizei); the 100,000th Porsche car was a 912 Targa for the police of Baden-Württemberg, the home state of Porsche.
In the April 1967 edition, the Porsche factory's Christophorus Magazine noted: "On 21 December 1966, Porsche celebrated a particularly proud anniversary. The 100,000th Porsche, a 912 Targa outfitted for the police, was delivered." Porsche executives decided that after the 1969 model year, continuation of 912 production would not be viable, due to both internal and external factors. First, production facilities used for the 912 were reallocated to a new 914-6, a six-cylinder high performance version of the Porsche 914, Porsche-Volkswagen joint effort vehicle. Second, the 911 platform had returned to Porsche's traditional three performance-level ladder, including a most powerful 911S, a fuel-injected 911E, and a base model 911T, with pricing largely in line with market expectations. Third, more stringent United States engine emission control regulations also had a bearing on the decision; Ferry Porsche stated "It would have taken some trouble to prepare the 912 for the new exhaust rules, and with the arrival of the 914 we would have had three different engines to keep current. That was too many. More
- 2018 Porsche Cayenne Typ PO536
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- Second generation 971
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- Porsche 911 996 generation 1998 - 2004
- 1989-1994 Porsche 911 964
- Porsche Boxster 981-Series
Base Engine 2.7L/265-hp/207-lb-ft flat-6
Opt Engine 3.4L/315-330-hp/266-273-lb-ft flat-6; 3.8L/375-hp/309-lb-ft flat-6
Drivetrain Mid-engine, RWD
Transmission 6M; 7-sp twin-cl auto
Basic Warranty 4 yrs/50,000 miles
IntelliChoice 5-Yr Retained Value 49...%
MINOR EPA ECON CITY/HWY: 18-22/24-32 MPG 0-60 MPH: 3.8-5.6 SEC*
BASE PRICE $53,095-$83,095
BODY TYPE Convertible
Porsche saved the best for last. Because a successor with a turbocharged flat-four is ready to replace the current-gen Boxster, Porsche is giving its popular roadster a proper send-off. The Spyder, a follow-up to the bare-bones Boxster Spyder from 2009, is the most impressive Boxster to date: 375 hp, suspension from the Boxster GTS, brakes from a 911 Carrera S, no standard air-conditioning, and no standard radio. It’s the ultimate expression of a no-frills, topless Porsche.
UNCHANGED A beautiful roadster with unreal performance More
- Porsche 911 997
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- Porsche 911 991 Club - Porsche 911/Turbo S
Base Engine 3.4L/350-hp/287-lb-ft flat-6
Opt Engine 3.8L/400-475-hp/324- 325-lb-ft flat-6; 3.8L/520-560-hp/487-516-lb-ft twin-turbo flat-6; 4.0L/500-hp/338-lb-ft flat-6
Drivetrain Rear engine, RWD/AWD
Transmission 7M; 7-sp twin-cl auto
Basic Warranty 4 yrs/50,000 miles
... /> IntelliChoice 5-Yr Retained Value 51%
An icon that meets the needs of every enthusiast.
BASE PRICE $85,295-$195,595
BODY TYPE Coupe, convertible
There’s a flavor of the iconic 911 for everyone. A newly introduced GT3 RS reigns supreme, but since the entire run of GT3 RS models (as well as the 911 GT3 it’s based on) is sold out, we say drive one if you can and then keep an eye on Craigslist. The GTS model has the most performance you can get without the help of forced induction, and the Turbo S model is the horsepower king. We love manual transmissions, but Porsche’s PDK automatic transmission is really, really good.
EPA ECON CITY/HWY: 14-20/20-28 MPG 0-60 MPH: 2.6-4.5 SEC* More
- Porsche 959
- Porsche 911 2nd generation and G-Modell / 930 - 1973-1988
- Porsche 911 993 Club
- Porsche Panamera/S E-Hybrid/Turbo S
Base Engine 3.6L/310-hp/295-lb-ft V-6
Opt Engine 3.0L s’chg’d V-6 + elec, 416 hp; 3.0L/420-hp/384-lb-ft twin-turbo V-6; 4.8L/420-440-hp/384-lb-ft V-8; 4.8L/520-570-hp/516-590-lb-ft twin-turbo V-8
Drivetrain Front engine, RWD/AWD
Transmission 7-sp twin-cl auto; 8A
Basic W...arranty 4 yrs/50,000 miles
IntelliChoice 5-Yr Retained Value 46%
A Porsche sedan that’s best kept simple.
BASE PRICE $79,095-$201,495
BODY TYPE Hatchback
Deep down everyone buys a Porsche because the person wants a car that drives well. Something fun, something fast. The Panamera Turbo and Turbo S sure fit the bill, and the GTS model has a lovely naturally aspirated V-8. Pair that with the optional dual-mode sports exhaust, and the Panamera GTS can go from comfortable and quiet to loud and brash with the push of a button. Avoid the plug-in hybrid, which has a clunky powertrain and overly sensitive brakes.
EPA ECON CITY/HWY: 15-18/24-28 MPG*, 50 MPG-E COMB
0-60 MPH: 3.5-5.2 SEC More
- Porsche Boxster 986-series first generation
At the other extreme of the roadster market in terms of age and spec is the 986-series Boxster, launched by Porsche in 1996 and remaining in production for eight years. All versions were powered by an ex-911 horizontally-opposed six-cylinder engine, this time mid-mounted to ensure more pre...dictable handling and roadholding than you’d expect from the Boxster’s big brother. The end result was a ‘proper’ Porsche with real driver appeal and impressive performance, reinforced further once the 3.2-litre Boxster S took a bow in 2000.
You can spend a lot less than £10,000 on a Boxster nowadays, but stretching your budget should bring extra peace of mind – as well as a superior car in every respect. In fact, you should end up with an excellent late-model 986-generation Boxster S, a machine that would have cost the best part of £40,000 when new, and which offered a mighty 250bhp – enough for a top speed of 160mph-plus, hitting 60 along the way in less than six seconds. The downside (inevitably, of course) is that tax and insurance for a late-model Boxster will be significantly dearer than for an older classic.
Buying a late 986 hopefully also means avoiding the engine issues of the earliest Boxsters, which can include cracked cylinder liners and failure of the intermediate shaft bearing (responsible for transmitting drive from the engine’s crankshaft to the timing chains, which in turn operate the camshafts). 2000-on cars are far more robust, but you should always insist on a full service history and evidence of a high level of maintenance.
- Porsche 918 Spyder
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Unless you were born into it, a Porsche was always something that came with success. Now there is a Porsche you can afford on the way to success.
The Mid-Engine Porsche.
It's a two-seater in the classic sports car tradition. But right behind the two seats is an engine in our race car trad...ition.
Weight distribution is 45% in the front and 55% in the back. Handling is just short of fantastic. The car simply goes where you point it.
With the engine in the middle, other advantages come to light. Tires wear better because each wheel carries almost the same load. Brakes work smoother for the same reason.
Other advantages included in the list price are rack-and- pinion steering, a five-speed all-synchro gearbox, and a built-in roll bar.
There are two trunks. (The removable fiberglass roof stores in the rear trunk.)
The price includes a 1.7-liter, 4-cylinder engine with fuel injection forgoing and 4- wheel disc brakes for stopping - price also includes the name Porsche.
‘Suggested retail price East Coast P.O.E. (West Coast P.O.E. slightly higher). Local taxes and other dealer delivery charges, if any, additional. For the nearest dealer that sells Porsches and Audis.
"I wanted to design a car young people could afford.”
Dr. Ferry Porsche. More
- PORSCHE 928 BEST BARGAIN GT!
It was designed to replace the 911 and move Porsche into new markets, but history records that the V8-powered Porsche 928 did nothing of the sort despite being hailed as the World’s best GT in the 1970s. Unlike 911s, the 928 remains incredibly cheap to buy (if not own), and can be great value if you find ...a solid, honest service-historied car. Just don’t run away with the idea that it’s an alternative to a 911 because the portly, front-engined (invariably automatic) 928 isn’t that sort of sports car.