Citroen DS 21 Proto race In the Chau #Bob-Neyret
Those pilotèrent the DS and those who suffered its competition preserve the memory of a curious treadmill that had been, a little faster, placed in the category of devouring highway. It was the underestimate. At ease on firm tracks, formidable on the snow, the #Citroen-DS
was able to shine through day his natural qualities: an outstanding road holding, an astounding braking and a leading comfort. Do not laugh not when you rolled thoroughly, for seven days and seven nights, housekeeping crew could ensure victory. If you talking about this car is that it is rewriting history, under the banner of Team Bob Neyret. Just back from #Monte-Carlo-Historique
, it is already preparing for the next Trophy Paris-Beijing. The adventure tempts you? Cinch you, Master #Neyret
takes us on a ride that moves ...Text and photos Hugues Chaussin.
The preparation of the transfigures car its behaviour. Movements fund are clearly more contents, which is beneficial in the during cornering, changes downforce but also braking. What efficiency! If broadens the rallies, DS maintains it.
This is the reflection that I enjoying doing the steering Bob Neyret, 81 for marital status, 60 less soon it has a flywheel in hand. Mostly if it is, a DS that car led large train between #1961
and 1971 in the Citroën team. "I still want to please me, as I have always done so far.
And to please others. "That why it is left up by his younger self and who marked them by creating the Team Neyret. An entity to supervise those who want to participate in major historical events, or by renting them a car or by making them part of the team with their own vehicle. My experience Rally, management and the organization in general facilitated the emergence of this structure, then its development, "he explains.
The success of the stable blue DS has as much to the popularity of DS as the lucidity of his discreet promoter. Its pilot experience at the highest level, and then boss the women's team Aseptogyl Bob in fact benefit all those who join the team: "It is important that people do make mistakes not from the start, including the choice of their mount.
Often, due to ignorance, they go astray investing in an unsuitable car. And there was this crowd of misconceptions circulating about racing DS, in particular the shortened. The fantasy that the around is totally overrated. "
The DS is a queen of rallies, it won the Cup of France Builders in #1967
, but Monte Carlo in 1959 and 1966 but differs in marathon events (Liège-Sofia-Liege, London-Sydney, Wembley-Mexico), on the African tracks (Bandama, Morocco) or snow...
No wonder, with considerable growth taken by competitions on historic route, as many enthusiasts are candidates their share of dream. Because DS, we will check it, is not stingy sensations. Especially one sharpened release. After several Monte-Carlo Historique and participations in Corsica and History Rally in Morocco organized by Yves Loubet, our Grenoble host launches an assault a great challenge: to reach Paris in Beijing as part of the trophy eponym. From July 10 to August 14 2015 Bob commits his team in adventure, while offering range of possibilities so that everyone can take part, according its availability or means, all or part of this promising epic in the long term.
The car you have in front illustrates what is possible to do starting from a DS 21 "normal". This is a 1967 model, prepared then in the spirit of the premises Atelier 524. The fund was first been strengthened, notably by adding a hoop produced by the Jacques point specialist. A sacred change because at the time, "We ran without! Remember Bob. An amendment that would have prevented the shortening of the rear which does so much talking.
Step Two: relief. "We received elements plastic body, but they arrived too late, "says Neyret would have liked to in benefit at the time, the performance being penalized by the overweight caused particular by the reinforcements of the frame. Our #Citroen
DS 21 has undergone a weight loss program impressive: "Over 200 kg were earned on the whole car " says Michel Boutias, the preparer, while making me weigh an original bumper stainless steel then a resin model. "3 kg against 17! "Everything is in the future: wings, sill and all the doors are fully made of poly, the rear window is molded in plastics material, AR as ice cylinders trunk lid are replaced by a single crutch alu, bumper brackets are Many elements breakthroughs ... are also recessed like Gruyere. And I'm not talking about the pavilion, more "light" than a Alpine factory! So, our DS weighs a ton or less.
A happiness never comes alone, it has an engine prepared by Integrated engine the team Michel Boutias. One skilled in the art once specialized in "factory gas "R5 Turbo. By applying simple recipes but proven, including a deep work the yoke and the distribution, it is managed to transfigure the 4-cylinder tumbled. Although undemonstrative original, since not enjoying little high revs, it reveals here another character. It develops now 150 horsepower while preserving incredible flexibility.
During the trial run that we carried on with Bob the heights of Grenoble, we literally blown away by its fabulous elasticity. It is a quality fundamental to self aimed Road to historical events. As a bonus, where, of origin, does not show a pronounced taste for high speeds, it gives here more votes. According to Michel Boutias, it would take 7,200 spins. Do not be angry with us, we not go check...
This unique mechanical character ally the lightness of the whole metamorphosis the DS. Once the engine is responsible, generous sound Weber 45 mm front wheels towing an vigorously great sedan that never seems to wane.
She wants the darn! Never violent, but still powerful, this 4-cylinder 2.1-litres is a reworked great success. It is pleasantly assisted by a manual gearbox, not four but reports five, as appeared on the models in 1971. No hydraulic box. No injection. When you go to a raid at the other end the world that you are in a country where there is no room DS is better to keep it simple. It freaks you sources of faults and less and you repair more easily.
Very just. That is why our man rents only cars so equipped, or although it recommends buying very specific models. His advice? "5. A DSuper in unearthed own within 10,000 euros. It is still affordable and combines all the advantages needed to rally.
No need to change much. A very serious revision me seems to be the most preparation judicious. "Michel is Boutias went a little further for one of its foreign clients. He introduces me and he has just one DS finish. It does not look under her dress a bit shabby. But when raising the bonnet, it is wonder. It has below new! "For now, the customer chose to leave the body side, he first wants to have fun with a safe car, "says the specialist. Everything was rebuilt at nine. Or better than new. Obviously, this has a cost. Must counting more than 20,000 euros full mechanical repair, until tire replacement with new Michelin.
The DS 21 with which we climb the road to Saint-Nizier is much more advanced than this model. Not only at engine. Pilot experience, Bob shows me gently the extent of the qualities of this Frame unusual. Revisited The suspension is a treat: the car never sets as a normal DS. No more movements fund exaggerated when set support or situation braking suddenly. This balance brings a lot in terms of efficiency, but also approval Conduct: "Look how she clings to the asphalt. These cars are amazing. It really is shame they never had real engine, or right box speeds. Because with such roadholding and braking also powerful, I assure you it is awesome. If the road was closed, it talonnerait any car modern, even well conducted, in a winding descent, "enthuses our driver for the DS appears to be an extension of its person. "On the snow, he added, she is unbeatable, especially with good tires. Same on the slopes where suspension wonders. "
After borrowing a portion Snowy where Bob puts into practice he just promise me there asks, "You want to see what it overlooks hilly course? " We drive a few kilometers then we emmanchons tape Asphalt battered by frost. The Instead of avoiding the holes, dark Bob above. Incredible! Despite its strengthened suspension, swallows DS irregularities without flinching. A Baby could almost sleep in the back ... "And the speed bumps, you want we try? "He says while a beautiful well retarder plump looming. Bob accelerates, the DS swallows the obstacle rife, sketching only a slight waddle.
In the same place, with 911, I guarantee you you spend at least the first. I imagine how a DS will be at ease on the course which leads from Paris to Beijing. Bob agrees: "This is by far the car ideal. I'm very excited by this adventure that I approach the simplest way. To me it will be the opportunity to live a pleasant time with nice people. And share it with my wife Marie-France, since we do team. In Moreover, this is a relaxing rally. We will have the freedom to drive to our pace between DS and why not to ask any longer to step if we take a step beforehand. "Optimistic? Not even. Just realistic...
Why shortened ds? Legend vehicle amounts of misconceptions about DS shortened. Bob Neyret, which is initiated the first of them, explains how they were born: "In the late 60s, the DS was more competitive, berlinetta revealing its limitations, particular weight / power exceeded. I then asked René Cotton, who headed the competition department at Citroën (note: created in 1963) if he could provide me with an engine more powerful while conducting the relief cars. This was not possible, that is why I was forced to get by. I approached the Grenoble Ricou dealer (note: brother one who built the trays in Chambéry). His workshop manager, René Flandin was crazy Citroën it was excited about my project: making a DS weigh less than 1000 kg. Ricou gave us a corner Flandin his studio and set to work. He built the DS first lightweight, all-aluminum. Having heard this initiative, the engineer Bertin made contact with me and offered me a supercharger of his design. The car that resulted worked so although Cotton enrolled him in the 1969 Coupe des Alpes. Alas, the adventure ended against a van PTT. The people then recuperated at Citroen self which remained a year in their services, time the copy and perform the first shortened steel. They me even entrusted this new vehicle with whom I twice won the Morocco. But he I must explain to you how I came up the idea of shortening the DS: at the end of each rally ran for Citroën, we stayed eight days on hand to shoot movies promotional. They were beautiful also. In viewing these images, I found that when flew over bumps, the DS still fell on the boot lid. At that time we did not have shackle. Consequently, the cars were rent then quickly twisted. It is for this reason and also to gain weight I had thought of shortening. However, do not believe it performs better. On land, it was far more difficult to drive on snow, it was almost worse. It was only in trials asphalt twisty genre Tour of Corsica it could have an advantage. For me, the sedan is significantly balanced. Nowadays, modern laying a hoop and relief body solve all problems we encountered before. "
Jean-Claude is an old acquaintance. Then I was doing, there twenty years, my first freelancing for Exhaust, he was my interlocutor. My boss ". Chance wanted we met in Grenoble. He now runs a happy retirement in Led his hamlet. Jean-Claude has always been passionate rallies. What more natural for a boy who was rocked to the sound of cars Monte Carlo who passed by his house native? Since he has time for him, he resumed a place he loves, in the tub right: "On the occasion of the hundredth anniversary the Monte Carlo Rally, I wrote a horssérie for the Automobile Club de Monaco, Neyret collaboration with Bob, who I sympathized. Antoine Raymond, one of the members Team sought then a Jean-claude Lamorlette and #Citroen-DS21 #1967
proto race "The car of my early" browser. Bob introduced me and we are very much agreed on. This got me allowed to resume contact with the car my debut. It is indeed aboard a DS, that of Martial Chevillon, I ran my first rally. It was the Vercors September 1968 it consisted of a loop Carri taking the collar we completed ... in the ditch! With Anthony we twice the Monte Carlo. We strive to be highly ranked and it demands a sacred work, both the pilot and the navigator. For me, the DS might be the perfect car for such tests because it is comfortable and warm, which is important given the number of kilometres we travel.
It also counts on a road holding outstanding and prepared like this, she torque and power. On the snow, I think it is not far from the best. In However, with the tires trade small nails, it is just a little stronger conditions Snow. Ideally, we be better studded tires. I look forward to see what this will give on the roads Paris-Beijing. "
From Paris To Beijing: 11.000 KM Old
After having organized more than 50 rallies, the most throughout the world (34,000 km), the Raid of Baroudeurs prepares a fascinating epic. Who has not dreamed before the exploits of the pioneers of the Paris-Beijing 1907 before the fantastic images of yellow Cruise, or the crazy adventure of London-Sydney 1968? With Bruno Ricordeau and his team, you can you also make history by joining Beijing in 36 days of rolling (130 to 700 km per day), with the possibility of lasting pleasure to Bombay, India. It is by no means competition, the principle taking longer to walk marathon without concept speed, for the satisfaction of all roll enjoying the landscape and passing through places mythical as Moscow, Ekaterinburg, Irkutsk, Ulan Bator or the Chinese Wall.
From 10 July to 14 August.
2,000 euros (Paris-Moscow) to 13,800 euros (all) including the return flight.
Examples of acclaimed cars: Citroën DS, SM, 2CV, Traction, Peugeot 203, 403, 404, 504, Renault 4, 18, 20, Mercedes until 1975 Nissan 240Z, Saab 99, Simca 1100, Volvo 142, etc. The Raid Baroudeurs, 5 rue de Mayenne, 72140 Sillé-le-Guillaume. T. 02.43.20.21.69, www.raiddesbaroudeurs.com
Wings AR indented had been adopted to easy replacement wheels (longer worth unbolt the wing). At the time, the elements were stamped into the thinner sheet metal and covered with a thin coat of paint. Today they are simply polyester. Note the location of the fuel hatch ... fictional.
At ease on any terrain, DS may jump Snow Monte Carlo to the slopes Moroccan with ease disconcerting. Just right to change tires.
This little paw (There is one on each side) is used to maintain AR ice up. Indeed, at high speed, it may have out of joint, which is very annoying! Under the events on tracks, rubber mud flaps restrict dust and flying stones.
The front bumper is integrally made resin. Weight gain compared to stainless steel: 14 kg! With Such banded headlights, it sees night as bright day. Up, fires tip down, lighthouses which turns add optical whose original strappings were painted black, and they are maintained up by small popées legs.
The glazing is plastic, as the entire the door! This means their featherweight
Who would have thought? As to the factory Alpine, pavilion sinks with a single press of the index. Admittedly our model is considerably thinner than the original one.
TEAM BOB NEYRET
As he did with success at the last Monte Carlo Historique, Team Bob Neyret engage up to five cars Paris-Beijing, because it is not possible to ensure a quality service while certifying usability if the group is too large. A team of two mechanics provide assistance light on the entire route. Two alternatives: Renting a DS equipped with assistance and repatriation of the car. This option offers the possibility, interesting, to buy the car at the end of the rally. Pr ix: 9.900 euros. Integration with your own Team DS including support, reservations for hotels and formalities. Price: 1,000 euros. Team Bob Neyret, 17 Bayard Street 38000 Grenoble. T. 06.88.15.97.84, robert.neyret @ numericable.fr
Because surveillance health status Mechanical is paramount, the preparer has chosen indicator modern. However, he assures, "their details are not necessarily better than that of the old instruments ".
The maximum relief does not prevent an ounce practical refinement in these range-witness records on door trim. Even then, the DS race retained the wheel original monoline. The estate the browser. Exercise current of the regularity Advertising serious skills and equipment advanced. The crew Raymond / Lamorlette finished 52nd the last Monte Carlo, which is very Hon.
Evocation of the board great racing board time, it comprises dials and indicators most modern.
The proto DS race had enormous capacity Gasoline: Distributed in 225 l three tanks. This in order to be autonomous in the major steps.
Blame it on a consumption quite high... The generous Jacques hoop Point forms a real "Cage" around the crew. It also serves as a point anchor the harness. The bench AR disappeared in favor of a pan helmets, in which is stored by the strict necessary for coolant, fluorescent vests, two or three tools. Below, the fuel tank of 97.
With 4.80 m, the DS is great car. This was also, and above all, lady Rally which won a number impressive events.
This view of the safe highlights the AR stiffening of the platform by the cradle, which just "dive" onto the side rails. The front wings are polyester and media are drilled. Maximum relief!
The use of a single carburetor (These are all of even a #Weber-DCOE45
) allows foster couple. Mounting a pair of carbs would doubtless rendering engine too pointed and very glutton. Counterproductive rally.
Attention brakes powerful! The mushroom central control a system hydraulics an efficiency confusing. So good need to learn with before going out the big attack. Including ice.
The collector Exhaust "3 Y" is a play goldsmith. Null doubt he participates the generous torque which demonstrated that Mechanical invigorated.
Rear view, the DS proto race is clearly distinguishable the production model. The absence bumper, black sill, large bibs and cutting wings betray frankly his vocation.
Technical Passport #Citroen-DS21 #Proto-Course-Neyret
4-cylinder in-line type DX, located longitudinally the AV. Cast iron block and aluminum cylinder head. Valves controlled by a side camshaft via tappets, pushrod.
Displacement: 2.175 cm3
Bore x stroke: 90 x 85.5 mm
Power max: 150 SAE hp at 5,500 r / min
Torque Max: n (17.7 mkg SAE 3,000 r / min originally)
Compression ratio: (8.75: 1 at the origin)
Power: double barrel carburetor #Weber
Ignition: battery 12 V 40 Ah (moved to AR), distributor and coil
Cooling: Liquid with water pump and fan.
Clutch: dry hydraulically controlled
Gearbox: 5 synchronized + MAR, lever driving
Gear ratios: 1st: 0.307 - 2nd: 0.515 - 3rd: 0.757 - 4th: 1,031 - 5th: 1,276 –
Axle Ratio: 0.2285 (8 x 35).
Four-door sedan, four / five seats, platform steel on which is bolted a structure central receiving body parts.
Suspension Front / Rear: independent wheels
Bunk arm (AV) or pulled (AR), a hydropneumatic block with integrated shock absorber per wheel, anti-roll bar front / rear, leveling
Hydraulic Brakes: disc AV in board / drums AR, hydraulically assisted vacuum
Handbrake: mechanical, acting the front wheels
Steering: rack and pinion
Turning circle: 5.50 m
Rims: sheet metal 5J steel Tyres: radial tire Vredestein
Snowtrac 3 195/65 R15 at the front and rear
Dimensions (LxWxH): 4,80 x 1,79 x 1,47 m
Wheelbase: 3.12 m
Channels front / rear: 1.52 / 1.32 m
Weight: about 1,000 kg
Cargo Capacity: 0.5 m3.
A DS 21 1967 combines the advantages "green liquid" and the line "présoixante-huitarde". Suffice to say that is a popular model. The average rating for a vehicle in good condition but not exceptional is around 22,000 euros. For self carefully prepared easily count the following double what was done and how.