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Mercedes-Benz W123 / C123. Another desirable Mercedes – again, one the classic market is only just waking up to. The...
Mercedes-Benz W123 / C123.

Another desirable Mercedes – again, one the classic market is only just waking up to. These are famous for their longevity, and as a sensible and fairly cheap to run four-door saloon, they’re a much more practical alternative to a sports car. One for the prudent investor!
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  •   BimmerPost reacted to this post about 2 years ago
    CAR: #Mercedes-Benz-200 / #Mercedes-Benz-200-W123 / #Mercedes-Benz-W123 / #Mercedes-Benz / #Mercedes / #1981-Mercedes-Benz-200-W123 / #1981 / #Mercedes-Benz-M102

    Year of manufacture 1981
    Recorded mileage 108,432km
    Asking price £10,500 Vendor W123 World, Cwmbwrla,
    Swansea: tel; 07714 089936; 01792 846888

    WHEN IT WAS NEW

    Price £8700 1981 UK
    Max power 109bhp
    Max torque 121lb ft
    0-60mph 14 secs
    Top speed 100mph
    Mpg 22-30


    The first owner of this left-hand-drive, German-supplied W123 was a senior manager at Mercedes in Stuttgart who wanted a car with as few electrical accessories as possible so that he could look after it himself in his retirement. Hence his choice of a manual 200 with carburettor engine, plus manual windows and sunroof, and no central locking. The only luxury he allowed himself was a good-quality Becker radio. It has a catalyser on the exhaust (for German cities) and still comes with its winter tyres.

    Specialist W123 World has recently recommissioned the car, replacing all of the brake calipers and hoses, radiator, battery and exhaust, and overhauled the carburettor. The previous owner was in Ireland and it has Irish plates, although it is still registered in Germany. There is no evidence of the structure ever having had paint or panelwork, and it has clearly led a quiet life. The bumpers and rubbing strips are in fine condition; the door shuts are crisp, plus the glass and light lenses are scratch-free all round.

    Pop the hefty bonnet and there are no problems with the hinges that W123s can suffer: it self props on its first catch and can go vertical for servicing. The bay is beautifully detailed, with all of the correct factory stickers. The engine is dry and leak-free, with oil and water to the correct levels. You can still see splashes of Waxoyl inside the wings.

    Inside, the blue seats with cloth inserts are unmarked and the driver’s seat base feels firm (they can sag). There’s no centre armrest, but there are factory overmats. Plus, the tool and first-aid kits are unopened.

    It looks smart on its steel wheels with body-coloured hubcaps and, while the quad circular lamps suggest an early car, it runs the later crossflow M102 ‘four’, so it feels surprisingly eager with the manual gearbox.

    It would be a miserable thing without power steering, but luckily the 200 has it and is a pleasant, undemanding drive with a stable tickover hot or cold and the usual full-deflection oil pressure under way. The steering is bereft of the straight-ahead play that can mar these cars, and the way the powerful brakes pull up straight reflects the work they’ve had.

    SUMMARY

    EXTERIOR Great factory body and paint
    INTERIOR Original and unmarked
    MECHANICALS Fully refurbished where necessary: just needs using

    VALUE

    For Must be one of the best unrestored W123s around
    Against Unexciting but easy-to-live-with specification

    SHOULD I BUY IT?

    This 200 is as straight and finely preserved as you could reasonably expect a near-40-year-old car to be
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  •   Chris Hrabalek reacted to this post about 4 years ago
    Invitation to the sports / #Mercedes-Benz 280TE-AMG-S123 / #Mercedes-Benz-280TE-S123 / #Mercedes-Benz-280E-W123 / #Mercedes-Benz-S123 / #Mercedes-Benz-W123 / #Mercedes-Benz / #AMG / #Mercedes-Benz-280TE-AMG-S123 / #Mercedes-Benz-AMG

    A #Mercedes 123 represents conservative values - and can be loaded as a station wagon style.
    Tuner #AMG did not change this Basic, advanced but the character

    There are few things, including Goethe's "Faust" is useful. To study the rhyme forms, perhaps. Or as a sleep aid. Otherwise, the concoction is pretty overrated.


    Because obviously only an ordinary car like the #Mercedes-Benz-280TE-AMG was the old Johann Wolfgang little creative and sight, as he let his rhyme Faust: "Two souls, alas! in my breast, / The one wants to separate from the other; / The one holding, in rough Liebeslust / Adhere to the world with clinging organs; / The other raises violently from Dust / The climes high ancestors. "

    Thus, a station wagon, the know not only Goethe enthusiast can already inherently much: be practical, this dress the driver well and keep puffing praises of reliability. it can not be just fast. Because in the 1970erund 80s a sporty appearance at Daimler-Benz is not hip - also because had been much research too long exclusively on rotary engine and the development department had simply ready no modern at its corner.

    The 280 six-cylinder with two lying type M 110 overhead cam 1972 is more of a temporary solution, and years later, "the zombie under the W 123 engines" as the specialists from the W 123-Club say today (see page 28) - because it continues to function even when everything rattles.

    Beginning of the 80s is the M 110 but also a great base for Mercedes tuner AMG in Affalterbach, where solvente heater can umfummeln their staid Benze to rapid non-BMW. Yes, "umfummeln", even if today's Daimler subsidiary AMG does not like to listen. After tuning is then, what it always was: Tinker at a high level and also at AMG far from perfect.

    Example: Our Photo Cart from 1984, which is also not fallen as AMG from heaven, but a pact with the devil power in two steps entered. The tragedy first part: the order as perfectly ordinary 280 TE in anthracite 172. (among others) five-speed manual transmission, driver airbag, seat heating and air conditioning, car phone, but without a sunroof, power windows or headlamp cleaner. Price: 70 050,10 Mark. Step two follows immediately after delivery with an AMG-contractor who undertakes a performance increase of stage II, ie by 25 hp.

    It includes changes to the cylinder head, as the machining of combustion chambers, channels, valves and cam followers. But above all, builds AMG two camshafts one, puts the chassis by 25 millimeters and installs a set Rial-Cross-spoke wheels.

    Step three of the power increase takes place in 1988 right in Affalterbach: Here the now 210 hp Combined be AMGSpoilerpaket, a coating of chrome parts in body color, and even wider wheels replaced (8 or 9 x 16 ") of own production The AMG conversion price thus far. : 18 990 Mark.

    A later owner (! Porsche driver) is again mounted chrome and the spoiler throw away - to Mercedes- friend Jörg Maschke buys the car and then a set of original AMGSchürzen on Ebay place (!). "I have long urged me not to drill holes in the body and the parts dranzuschrauben. So I copied large AMG me a brochure, but here seen: They are then not even complied with a uniform screw spacing ".

    The AMG engineers find meanwhile technical solutions that are as simple as it is ingenious: instead, for example, to build a larger airbox inlet itself, AMG transforms the available factory tropical variant to. And they build up a speed limiting relay from the V8, which would allow calculation about 7000 U / min, when the valve train of the M 110 this, alas only. Now the 280 TE, but no race car and should not be either. "From 160 km / h Driving is fun, and to 200 it is as you would imagine," says Maschke and passes the driver's seat.

    Because he better fits behind the seat Riese, he has installed a smaller steering wheel from W 124th At 123-typical feeling that does not change: If the Autotester- formulation of the "Central location inexact steering" ever had an origin, then the wheel of a W 123 has the shift lever while still AMG shortened hakelig and damn long the pilgrim path remains between first and Second nonetheless. Everything as always, so? Is the AMGTE even just a quick Schleicher with a double chin? Now, the classic leather chair at least have concluded with the country of high Benz ancestors a devilishly slippery Pact. but you also contribute to the surprisingly high residual comfort. An AMG-tuning chassis does not feel like a Dopsball on Ritalin, but fundamentally decent and safe.

    Spontaneously, the two can not be separated AMGSeelen however. Under 3500 / min happens little, and so the driver has to make an informed choice, in rough Liebeslust return two courses and to unscrew the six-cylinder sinewy and 6500 tours, the enjoyment grass on the left motorway lane.

    Finally, although it is fun to plane with a fast station wagon along narrow country lanes. But straight it may then be better. Frederik E. Scherer

    While AMG can produce their own light alloy wheels, but also engages in many cases back to standard products - for example, the speed limiting relay of V8 engines in order to increase the speed in the six-cylinder.

    Carpet in the cargo area dissociates the Model T from commercial vehicle - in estates early 80s is not of course the shift lever of the five speed transmission is reduced, the steering wheel comes from the W 124. The body kit made of fiberglass is bolted to the body; originally was the first owner also chrome parts in body color coat.

    25 additional hp and 240 Nm of torque obtained from AMG sharper camshafts and a machined cylinder head.

    Additional air comes over tropical trunk on the air filter. On the leather armchairs performance will however not stop.

    PLUS MINUS
    Its reliability was an S 123 after the power boost in Affalterbach not. It is probably the largest of muscle strength Benz. Then as now, he polarized: Kenner applaud turn up vintage newcomers nose and throw a of AMG in a pot of home improvement craft booths. The exclusivity, clinging to a historic AMG does not automatically mean a better state of preservation. Among the usual weaknesses of 123ers (rust!) Is increased wear, especially wheel bearings and chassis gums. Specifically, the accumulator of hydropneumatic level control are mostly flat for the station wagon. Full unrestricted an everyday operation today anyway no longer possible: Given rare original parts take the most AMG owners their cars only with kid gloves.

    SPARE PARTS

    In short, the situation is serious. Although AMG claiming to deliver or parts for older models, you should not rely on it. therefore AMG drivers maintain their network: If original lumps appear, they are purchased - even if only to have something to swap. This applies to wheels (which, if at all, only as a set are) as well as for AMG sticker. Disadvantage: If certain parts remainders exist (. Eg abroad), the scene automatically pushes the prices up.

    MARKET SITUATION
    The current stock of AMG-tuned T model is estimated to be about ten. If one sold times, then usually not scene- or club internally on the open market, but. Our price curve is for a standard 280 TE. The AMG-tuning leads, depending on the vehicle, to a more or less significant premium.

    RECOMMENDATION
    Although at a mass car like the 123 sounds like a paradox: The best way to good Exem plar via the two big clubs (see addresses). These also offer detailed buyer's guides in book form and online. Anyone familiar with the basics, can then start looking for a AMG. It will require a lot of patience, because such a car buy only specialists with high expectations, and rarely give it recovers. On PS is not the point - but on authenticity and history.

    HISTORY

    It would probably be easier to get an audience with the Dalai Lama as an insight into the history of AMG. But we remain objective and at the (known) facts: 1967 found Hans-Werner Aufrecht and Erhard Melcher your business in - from the initials of the name AMG. As the former Daimler-Benz test engineers are both in motor home. At first they make tailfins legs before sending a 300 SEL 6.3 with a 6.8-liter V8 and 400 hp to the racetrack. The "Red Sow" makes AMG Mercedes tuner famous and to address more solvent clients all series. For the W 123 AMG provides machined cylinder heads and turbocharger to the diesel engines. Top model is 1983, the AMG 500 CE with 276 hp. Since 1976, located in Affalterbach, goes " #Mercedes-AMG " in 1999 as a subsidiary of Daimler AG. Exact numbers for AMG cars are not known.

    W 114/115 (1968-1973) From "/ 8" build Meanies and Binz both ambulance and station wagon 280 TE Zender (1980) The smooth-surfaced Aprons develop bestsellers

    AMG 300 TE-24 3.4 (S 124) (1989-1992) 272 hp (instead of factory-220), at 250 km / h Governed
    C 55 AMG (S 202) (1998-2000) farewell to the first C-Class with 5.4-liter V8 and 347 hp

    Practicality 4
    Repairability 4
    Spare parts 2
    Maintenance costs 2
    Availability 1
    Price forecast 2

    ADDRESSES
    Clubs: www.w123-club.de; www.vfw123.de literature: R. Heitz, T. Neff: About Mercedes Tuning, Motorbuch 1987 antiquarian from 25 euros; M. Rohde, J.-P. Syrup: Mercedes-Benz W 123, Heel 2004 29.90 euros
    TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
    Engine: six-cylinder, front longitudinal • double overhead camshafts, driven by chain, two valves per cylinder, mech. Petrol Injection
    Displacement 2746cc
    Max Power 155 kW (210 hp DIN) at 6300rpm
    Max Torque 240 Nm at 4600rpm
    Gearbox five-speed manual transmission / Rear wheel drive
    Front independent suspension on double wishbones, rear Diagonal swing axle, coil springs u. Gas pressure shock absorbers all round
    Front tire 205/55 ZR 16 rear 225/50 ZR 16
    Dimensions: wheelbase 2795 mm • L / W / H 4725/1786/1445 mm
    Curb weight 1575 kg
    Performance 0-62 MPH / 0-100 kph in 8.4 s
    Fuel consumption: about 18 l per 100 km
    Top Speed 210 kph
    Original price: 89 040 DM #1984
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  •   Richard Truesdell reacted to this post about 4 years ago
    Head South To Stop Staff Cars by Ben Allen

    CURRENTLY WORKING ON #1984 #Mercedes-Benz-230E-W123 / #Mercedes-Benz-230E / #Mercedes-Benz / #Mercedes-Benz-W123 / #Mercedes

    Having successfully evaded arrest and prosecution down in the land of the ‘free’ to get some brake calipers for my 1984 Mercedes 230E, I was back in the Great White North (Canada) ready at last to fit the damn things. Buying automobiles on the cheap from local yoofs has its problems: the main one in this case being embarrassingly neglected brakes. The issue was that the old pads were so far into the metal, the old caliper pistons had pushed all the way out, well and truly shagging the seals, and thus, the calipers. An easy job, completed before coffee and a croissant at 11am, had now turned into a month long epic. Fortunately, after much searching, I now had everything needed to fix the Benz. Being in Canada, far away from anyone I knew who had any idea of how to mess around with cars, I was on my own. I’m notoriously lazy at getting my own work done without relying on friends for assistance, but now I had no choice. Go it alone – or have the remains of a Mercedes stay forever on axle stands in the garage gathering dust. It reminded me of the time back in 2005 when I had 24 hours to change the gearbox on my 205 Mi16 before heading to the Nürburgring with PPC. Surprisingly everyone, including myself, I did the job, only to have a coming together with the Armco half-way around the circuit at Adenau Bridge on my second lap. Fortunately, the Pug survived. My dignity didn’t.

    To my relief, changing the calipers was a simple job. New calipers cleaned up, I cracked the nuts off the old units and flung them into a corner of the garage. New calipers bolted on, chunky new pads sufficiently greased and slid into place in front of the non-seized pistons, I was ready for brake bleeding.

    Online, I’d seen a simple one-person brake bleeder kit that could be made from an old drinks bottle and some plastic tubing. The idea being a loop over the highest point in the reservoir in the caliper would mean that all trapped air could be pushed out of the brake system without letting more in. Cheap and simple.

    At this point, it was also a good time to clean up the bleed nipples on each caliper to ensure they remained free for next time. I’d had too many bleed nipples snap on me back in my own days of yoofing around with Pug 205 GTIs to not do this simple, preventative maintenance.

    Calipers installed, pads sitting pretty, and brakes bled, I tentatively put the wheels back on Olivia and lowered her off the axle stands. With some luck, I’d be able to edge her out of the garage and stop without crashing into the neighbours’ brand new fence. I closed my eyes as I pressed the stop pedal. The car stopped. Bonus. I made my way around the neighbourhood, brake testing the old Benz. Success – brake job completed. I just have to wait for my replacement headlight lens to arrive from Latvia now and I’ll have a respectable car.

    ‘IF THE BRAKES DIDN’T WORK I’D DESTROY THE NEIGHBOUR’S NEW FENCE

    Second-hand calipers came from the USA.

    W123 Merc was bought as a runner with shagged brakes. But then with no MoT, Canada must be full of dangerous cars.

    Salad bowl headlamp lens awaits Latvian replacement.

    Old boys like Ben need to sit down when working on cars.
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